Ugh I wish it wasn't called the Art Games section......Good recommendations though
Art games just sounds like 'Games with a Higher Purpose'
Justinas Malijonis
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Thanks for the suggestions! It definitely gets hard to draw the line with some games... Some games feel like a slippery slope to opening the floodgates for similar stuff that doesn't quite fit what I think people expect to find when looking for "Art Games"... But it all is pretty subjective.
The redesign will finally put our genre data to use, so for example when your game is specified as "Adventure" in your submission form, it will finally now show up on the Adventure games section and not have to be put there manually.
I didn't set up Art games as a genre since an art game really can be centered in a traditional genre such as a platformer or a point and click adventure... In the future I expect that people will tag their games with "artgame" and then users will be able to view tag results for "artgame" - we could ultimately have a list of popular gaming tags people can browse.
Yep, when I saw that "Art games" aren't among genres I thought that the main reason for this is the fact that Art game does not define the gameplay mechanics but rather the other details such as mood or a way of development execution. I'm really eager to hear how will we be able to sort out stuff while browsing genres/collections, but I'll wait as I intend to make my next FP post about that topic :). Good luck on your redesign works, I'm really eager to see it all!
I strongly disagree with the whole "art games" thing
Who decides which games are art and which are not? What makes a game "arty" enough?
I believe the word art is one of the most useless words in human history. Words are used for communication thus in everyones head they must have a similar meaning. And when speaking about art, everyone has a diffirent opinion on what is art and what is not. Art games section pretty much has a proper definition of what you will find inside, quote: "The intent isn't necessarily to provide the player with a challenge or addictive mechanic, but rather to convey a message, elicit an emotion or create a memorable experience.". I could not think of any other proper name of how to define this collection. That is why this is a definiton of words "Art games" within the boundaries of newgrounds website. Beyond this website art is once again an undefined word which changes meaning based on someones opinion. Long story short, if you go to the "Art games" collection and find there what you expect to find the purpose of a collection is served for you. If the majority of users find what they were looking for but you don't, well the developers/administrators of the site can't be good to everyone, it's simply impossible. And now I believe that most of the people who click that collection find what they expect to find based on the name. Thus I think that there isn't a reason to strongly dissagree with something here, because the purpose of collection isn't to define art in universal standarts (which as I mention before don't even exist).
yeah, tom, the tags seem to work best. i'd say if you click 'adventure games' it would just put in a search for all the games that people tag their game with 'adventure'
a lot of games nowadays are plenty of different genres so i wouldn't be surprised if i came across the same game in different categories
what the-- Dont Shit Your Pants got blammed??
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man- F the newgrounds audience >:(
Oh nevermind, no it didnt
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Kajenx
Hey, I recommended your games for the collection. I really liked Menulis back when it came out. It was memorable, you know?
There's a new redesign coming up, so maybe that'll fix some of the issues with the collections. They always felt like a side addition to the site to me, and they're kind of random. There's a new genre system that's been appearing on a lot of entries and I'm betting the redesign will integrate that more.
JustinasM
Yeah, I know about redesign. Thats why I'm doing public discussions. After all, redesign functions will mainly be used by general public, that's why I think more discussions on that will bring a much better content in the end. Maybe some of NG redesign developers will see this thread and make out some new good stuff, maybe they are already doing such changes. And thanks for vote!